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Brutus MaximusJan 21, 2009 1:56 PM GMT
I just bought a used Sonic Stomp pedal as an early birthday present to myself. I won't have a chance to play with it until this weekend. I know in your Gear video you said it has to be the last pedal in the chain before the amp. Any other tips?
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No just have fun with it! I keep the low Contour at 3 and the process knob around 6....But thats for my rig yours may be different. Let me know how you like it...a subtle but incredible effect!
If nothing else, the BBE pedals have those vivid blue LED indicators--way high on the cool factor. They look really well made, too, with all-metal cases.
Once I get accustomed to the Sonic Stomp, I might consider getting one of the Opto Stomps. From what I've read, that's a much more subtle effect.
So? Hows it sound?
Please tell us more about how it sounds, when you can.
Hi I use the BBE and it's working very well for harmonica amps.
Less feedback, and more power. The sound seems to find his way easier with the other instruments.
I've made a little video with a friend who's palying with my rig in a jam session.
I use a BBE Stomp, too. I love this effect, because it pushs your sound much more in front without make it sound cruppy.
I made a Video of this BBE. It is in german, well, but don`t listen to what I`m talking about, after a few minutes you`ll listen to the difference between with and without BBE.
BBE Sonic Stomp it's the way to go, i believe Jason Ricci said it's like putting your rig on steroids
Hey Rutabaga!! Thanx for your comments on the Lone Wolf! How would you compare the BBE sound (I'm on dial up so the Youtube and videos are beyond my rural reach) Are they 2 completely different animals?
I finally had a chance to play out with the Sonic Stomp last night. Wow! I don't know how to describe the effect--it seems louder, though it's not really "louder" as much as "fuller." The two best descriptions are "taking the blanket off the amp," as others have stated, or "music in high definition," to quote our host.
Gonna have to rearrange my little homemade pedalboard to make room for this thing. It's a keeper. Thanks for suggesting it, Jason!
We hosted a jam last night at a cool venue in historic Boonville, MO. It's the old Turner Hall building, which has been lovingly restored by a small group of folks. The acoustics are great, though easily overpowered, so I used my smallest amp ('61 Gibson Skylark) and miced it up into the PA. It's already a great sounding amp, but the Sonic Stomp transformed it into a breathtaking rig. Everyone who played through it raved about the tone and presence--they couldn't believe such a tiny amp was generating all that sound. I experimented with switching the SS on and off while I played. The overall tone just blooms when I kick it in. The most apt comparison is switching a surround-sound system from mono to 5-channel stereo. Incredible dynamics and definition. I recommend this pedal without hesitation for all amplified players, regardless of their style or skill level.
I'm resurrecting this thread because I finally took the plunge and ordered one of these pedals. I wanted to let everyone know that Amazon.com has them going for $60.50 or thereabouts. That's equal to the least expensive price I found on eBay, and almost $40 less than Musician's Friend. I discovered an old Amazon gift certificate in the drawer that was expired by dates, but Amazon still took it.
I just checked and it was 60.98 from Amazon, and it qualified for free shipping. The eBay one was $60.50 but charged for shipping.
I'm not really a pedal kid of guy (apart from my Boss DM-2). But this does sound great and I'm seriously considering getting one of these.
Does the Opto Stomp do the same thing as the Sonic Stomp?
Isn't the Octo primarily made for Bass Guitar, whilst the Sonic is made primarily for Guitar?
I might be way off on this. Can someone clarify this for me please?
This thing is cool but use the power adapter as the batteries don't last very long.
I don't know if it is a fair representation of value but I just got one for $46 on FleaBay.
Sounds like you got a good deal there Greg!
All Hail the Sonic Stomp!!!
Really the Sonic Maximizer in general.
I bought the SS afew months ago and will never againbe with out one. It's not really an effect so much as it puts frequencies in the proper order. Like the old TV ad about - "We don't make... We make... beter." A fuller, more round sound.
More recently, I found a great deal on a rack mount Sonic Maximizer at a local music store. We run the PA through it and itgives the vocals a nice polish. Very pro sound.
Only other pedal I'm using for the harp right now is a Dan-Echo. I'm watching ebay trying to snipe a Two Timer. I look at the Opto Stomp and the Mind Bender also, but all things in good time.
Someone needs to do a good recording going on and off, not camera mic. I just don't hear it otherwise.
I just ord a BBE Two Timer from Amazon $100 including shipping.
here are a few of my questions:
I am not ready for any other additions to my Kalamzoo, but in what order should some one like me get different peddles.
Im not a paid musician, Craps im not even a musician. I just like to play and enjoy making diferent sounds.
You have guys that love playing games on Play-station or what ever, not me never got into it.
you have guys that love old cars and can tinker with them, I just have old cars only because they still run.
ok that was just one.
Abner if you really want to invest in more gear the next best thing for you to buy would be a mic for putting the Kalamazoo into the PA (unless Greg has fitted a line out feature to it).
You have one of Gregs Ultimate SM57's I believe(Hi-Z I presume) so you're ok for a harp mic. The Kalamazoo has sorted your amp needs for now and the BBE will be the icing on the cake.
Kingley I have Greg's custom wood mic. And the Kalamazoo will be fitted with a line out.
When I practice I use the amp, then non amp. When I get the BBE it will fall into the same category. Were I will use it then at other times I wont.
I just wanted an idea for the " when if ".
Joe, I will also keep that Lone Wolf Tone + in mind.
Got mine and have gigged with it twice. Jason's settings (low contour on 3, process on 6) seem about right.
Yeah, hard to describe what it does but I like it. Definitely adds a little edge to your attack.
Belated congratulations on getting one for a great price, Greg. I was away and finally got to try mine, both with harmonica and guitar. It adds presence and a bit of grind to both instruments, but as I suspected, it seemed to do more for harp than for guitar.
I didn't try it in series with the Lone Wolf Harp Tone Plus, but that will be next.
i just pick up a sonic stomp from guitar center. it is amazing. i love. even with the dials all the way down as soon as you click it on you hear a differnce.
I got a Sonic Stomp yesterday for £40GBP less than the list price!
Great piece of kit. Definitley is as people say like "taking the blanket off the amp".
I haven't had much time to play with it yet, but Jasons setting Lo Contour=3, Process =6 is pretty damn good.
Thanks for the heads up on this piece of kit J.
Yeah! Just recieved mine. I hardly try it as it was allmost night yesterday. But if I turn both knobs up the effect is pronounced. Anyway I really want to try it at gig.
I noticed less of an effect with the Sonic Stomp when I had the Lone Wolf Harp Tone Plus. It had a very clear beneficial effect alone. Does anyone else have both pedals?
If I were to be in the market for ONE pedal to improve my sound, what would that pedal be? What is the seminal "must have" pedal for harpists? What is like, the DS-1 of harp pedals; the gibson thru marshal of harp pedals; Hohner Marine Band of harp pedals??? You catch my drift haha
@Andrew - probably a delay pedal. Fattens up your sound. Most people seem seem to go for some sort of slap back sound and/or tape echo.
What pedal you get to do that depends on $$$/time/luck and which camp you fall into, vintage all the way or willing to try new stuff, modelers, etc.
I use a Line6 Echo Park. http://line6.com/tonecore/echoPark.html
Sort of a middle ground, There are endless threads in the archives on delay pedals.
Delay is up there I believe. But it depends on your setup mike/amp etc. The other possibles are a an EQ pedal and an AntiFeedback pedal.
I just bought a beringher Vintage Delay pedal for $60 Australian. It does sound good for a cheap pedal. Really fattens up the sound without unwanted noise. But really it is a stopgap until I can afford a better one. We will have to see how long it lasts. Look for pedays with True Bypass and read the reviews at Harmony Central.
If your looking for a pedal just for harp Lone wolf pedals are great. I played through Ian Collards (Awsome Australian Harp player) setup two weeks ago. He was using three Lone Wolf pedals into a Clean Fender amp (because he uses it for guitar as well). I thinkit was a delay, a Tone and a HarpTone. I must say it was a fantastic setup. Really opened up my playing.
I think that the ultimate pedal for harmonica is the old Boss DM-2 analog delay. To my ears, it is the best delay out there ... but much less expensive delay pedals get rather close for far less money as the Boss DM-2 pedals (made only in the early 80s) go for $150 or more, generally.
Very interesting to revisit this thread - I have an insight I'd like to share.
I've had my sonic stomp for a while. I plugged it in - liked it. Used it for a while. Cut to several months later.
The last few times I've performed, I plugged STRAIGHT INTO MY AMP. No delay, no sonic stomp. Guess what - I thought it sounded GREAT! It reminds me again of something I learned studying the "psychology of human interface" in my previous career, which included software user interface design work.
People generally respond positively to change. There's a famous study where they went in to a work place and made the lights brighter. Productivity went up. A while later they went back and made them brighter again. Productivity went up. Then they went back made them dimmer. PRODUCTIVITY WENT UP. Turns out people noticed the change, felt it was done for their benefit, and therefore liked it.
I liked my Sonic Stomp when I plugged it in. I liked my delay when I used it to. But I liked NOT having them just as much. In fact the last several times I've been out I've played straight into the amp. When I get bored, I'll plug them in again, and I expect I'll like it!
But knowing this has, and will continue to help me avoid Gear Acquisition Syndrome leading to financial stress.
That is a fantastic insight! It is so obvious once it has been stated, but how many of the pedals and other things I love really represent this phenomenon, rather than a "true" improvement? I very much wonder how much this phenomenon feeds GAS (gear acquisition syndrome), the drive to buy more and more musical equipment. It also must related to my observation that I tend to like the equipment I've used the least lately, if I pull it out again and give it a try.
I'm trying to develop a reference point to tell the difference between this phenomenon and a "true" sonic improvement, but there probably is no clear dividing line, whether we're talking about harmonicas, amps, or pedals.
ortho: i have both pedals, and the tone does not change the sonic stomp much. However, both pedals might well match impedence better on your amp, and that might be the effect you are picking up. i don't use the tone much except with crystal elements, for some reason it really helps them shine.
the sonic stomp does clarify things a bit, and seems a stronger effect on my small amp than my bassman clone, i use the approximate settings jason suggested and they seem to work well.
I agree with the "change" comment. Given that the sonic stomp has a try bypass, and the lone wolf does as well, it is also possible to be plugged right into the amp for a few songs as well, to introduce change during a perfomance.
I really appreciate hearing from someone who has both pedals. I've had the Lone Wolf Harp Tone Plus out a lot lately, but not the Sonic Stomp, so I'll have to pull the latter out again and give it another try.
I have lonewolf harp delay and sonic stomp. I've tried sonic stomp. Harpattack Harpdelay sonic stomp make 12'' solid state cheap chinies 65W Kustom amp sounds great, maybe better than my tube amp itself. Sonic stomp is the thing I looked for. It removes all mud from tone. It's great!