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Jawbone KOct 05, 2009 10:55 AM GMT
i was looking on rockin' ron's website and playing the brendan power videos as well, curious about the different suzuki models. i was actually about to decide on a bluesmaster and maybe next month a manji.
wife got looking at the videos and fell in love with the sound of the pure harp. this is a harp i would not have considered due to the expense, but she offered to let me get one, so being a harp player i of course sat down and ordered one!
so, something to look forward to! anyone here have a pure harp?
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No, it has the same reed plates as a Firebreath and the same rosewood comb. In fact, it's the same harp as a Firebreath, except it has rosewood covers. Nice harp, but I'm not wild about the wooden covers. But yes, the tone is a little darker than the Firebreath, very smooth and perhaps not quite as much presence as the Firebreath. But a very nice high qualityharmonica.
Personally, my harp of choice for the last few years is the Suzuki Hammond.
I'ver got a set of 13 Hammonds, a set of 10 Promasters, a set of 10 Firebreaths, one Fabulous and one Pure Harp. i've been playing Suzukis exclusively for almost 3 years. My peforming harps are Hammonds and the spare set I carry are Firebreaths. Hammonds and Promasters use the same reedplates which are different from the reedplates used on the Firebreaths and Pure Harps. The plates (not the reeds) of the Promaster/Hammond reedplates are nickle coated. The plates of the Firebreath/Pure harp reedplates are not.
Now, Promaster/Hammond reedplates will work if you put them on a Firebreath or PureHarp and Firebreath/Pure Harp reedplates will also fit Promasters and Hammonds. But they are not tidentical and they sound different.
Whatever Harp Depot is telling you, I can tell just by looking at the reedplates in my Hammonds and the reeplates in my Firebreaths that they are not the same. But you CAN use swap them and they will fit both harps, although they will sound different and respond differently.
Hammonds and Promasters are made to the same specs, but the combs used on the Hammonds are true to spec, whereas Promaster combs are often a liitle warped due to the manufacturing process. This is why the Hammonds cost more and definitely sound better.
The covers of the Hammonds are painted brass. The covers of the Promasters are chrome plated brass. I happen to believe that the painted covers darken the tone a little Some knowledgeable experts agree with me about this, but others think i'm crazy. However the Promasters are BRIGHTER sounding than the Hammonds for whatever reason. The Hammonds are unquestionably a better playing instrument. I love my Hammonds, and I like my Firebreaths. I'm not that happy with my Promasters.
I haven't tried a Manji because they have compromise tuning. I strongly prefer equal temperment. I play in multiple positions and I can't stand the way some notes are tuned flat in compromise and just intonation tunings. Very unmusical IMHO.
It is possible to order replacement reedplates for Firebreath/Pure Harp. Check with Harmonicas and Stuff or Rockn' Ron's Music 4 Less.
I agree that the higher end Suzukis are the absolute best out of the box harmonicas made. They are so much better than ANY out of the box Hohner that they make stock Hohners seem like toys.
well that's a lot of good info and i appreciate the responses! my experience with suzuki is very limited. i was once given a promaster but it was in B. who uses a B harp? nobody local plays much of anything in a key i can use it with, so i gave it to a friend who did have a use for it.
i have a feeling i may be about to switch over from other brands. that will take a while, i have a case of df's, LO's, and a few other assorted harps that i use currently, and a switchover for me is a one or two at a time venture. but i do plan to try at least two other model suzukis as time goes on.
FYI, the Bushman Delta Frost is manufactured by Suzuki.
"who uses a B harp?" Use it to play "Give me one reason" by Tracy Chapman. Now that could have been 'one reason' to keep your B harp.
here's a quick review of the harp i'm posting around-
i just got one of these in the mail today. ordered from rockin' ron's out of ny state, it was here in 2 days' time. that's good! free shipping always a nice bonus. the harp itself came in a plastic box similar to say a delta frost box, but that's where similarities end. this is one well done instrument. it features both rosewood comb and covers and suzuki's phosphor bronze reeds. very appealing to the eye and that's just the beginning: it's a bit smaller than say a lee oskar and the holes are just a bit smaller, but the couple of hours i've spent playing it show that there is no problem getting individual notes. response is wonderful. tone is warm and mellow. volume is some less than other harps i use but not by much at all. i got one in key of G, which i do a lot of 3rd position in. for both single notes and octave tongue block stuff, this harp is a dream from bottom to top of the register. i'll be putting this harp through more rigorous paces in coming days on at least one stage and maybe 2 or 3.
Yes, the holes on Suzukis are slightly smaller and closer together than on Hohners and Lee Oskars. Not really a problem, but there was an adjustment period for me when I first started playing Suzukis after playing Hohners for so long. Now, I don't even notice it. And, yes, Suzukis do have remarkably even tone throughout all the registers. And they are equal temperament, which means it's so much easier to play in tune because none of the notes on the instrument are deliberately tuned flat.
this pure harp went through the wringer over last weeknd, and it passed with flying colors! i had it out for 4 consecutive nights on 3 different stages, through various rigs and a p.a., and it never failed to sound great.
like john, i did notice the smaller holes but it was not a problem to adjust to that.
the rosewood covers and comb, along with the very well tuned reeds, produced an almost addictive warmth of tone. it was hard to put this one down! volume was some less than say a delta frost of LO, but that's what amps are for.