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bluesmandanJun 04, 2009 3:04 AM GMT
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My pedalboard. Today I decided to add boss LS2 as booster for amp and as a splitter (to split between tube amp and tube pre-amp for line-in playing.
WoW! I just use a reverb pedal.
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My pedalboard. Here's a link to how it works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aZbc21cpJs
I don`t have pics of my hands and mouth,lol
Dude, what's that cool pedal on the right???
BOSS TR-2 (not used)
BOSS OC-2 (sometimes)
BOSS DM-2 (everytime)
SEE PHOTO http://ameblo.jp/harpman/entry-10293911894.html
I notice most brands are Boss or digitech. None are Lone Wolf.
Im not asking why not Lone Wolf, Im simple asking why one over the other.
also if you were to start with one effect box, which one would it be and why?
Or should this be a topic on to itself.
Just wondering. My wife wants to buy me something like this for my Birthday.
She has already bought me a Kalamazoo from Greg, (WAITING) Should be here tomarro.
abner (BluEyes, been up since 4 am)
Hmmm, the first effect pedal. Probably a delay, unless you want to go all weird on people.
no weird stuff , I like it straight. Not that there's anything wrong with some weird stuff now and then. But when You start getting old the weird stuff just gets harder to keep up...
Sorry PG13 my bad,,,, please don't send me a no, no letter....
Ok, so back to the subject. Delay anyone else out thier have any other suggestion or is Delay the winner...
what about brand...
Come on guys you were hot to trot when showing your stuff now I need to know why.
Sorry again, just got off wathcing ... ok im going to stop now before I get kicked off.
abner (BluEyes, being bad to the bone ) im in real trouble.
Well Jason uses the BBE Two Timer, which is pretty much a carbon copy of a Boss Delay. The Lone Wolf is also good, but I'd say the BBE is vetter because of it being a regular delay. The Lone Wolf is limited.
ok Zack you got my attention. explain if you can. with out being too technical.
how is the BBE not limited, or what does it have that the Lone Wolf does not.
I have been to You Tube and some guys have some good examples on what the delay does.
But then you have a bunch of others as listed on this post. But im still interested in just getting my first effect box, I have some time before my Birthday. And im still waiting for the Kalamazoo to show up... im not leaving the house this week. im not going to the bathroom nothing.
abner (BluEyes, right like my wife would let me not shower )
The BBE Two Timer is modeled on the Boss DM-2 which in turn was modeled on the old tape echo machines (Echoplex). Both the BBE and the Boss are analog delays which in most cases are warmer for harp and have a more organic feel to them. The Lone Wolf is digital but it emulates the analog pedal.
If you plan on buying a delay pedal which is the most common pedal used by harp players. Then spend your hard earned cash on either a Boss DM-2 (you can only get them on ebay these days) or a BBE Two Timer. They are the best.
The BBE has two delays so is more versatile than the Boss. But the Boss is the most sought after delay pedal in the world, by all musicians.
ok, now that works.
Thank you both for helping out...
The BBE Two Timer goes for around $124 is that about right.
The Boss DM-2, getting them on Ebay is that taking a chance and what would be the good price ( not over bidding ) be.
So, in your opinion the Lone Wolf is out.
abner (BluEyes, not a musician, just a player )
ok, $235 plus for Boss on ebay I will pass on that one.
You should be able to get a BBE Two Timer cheaper than that on ebay anwhere from $90. I just saw a couple on there for that price. They are also currently on Amazon for $90.
id like to get a lonewolf. ill have one someday. but i have other stuff cause lonewolf didnt exist when i got this stuff.
BBE seems to be the way to go. I have heard it is almost spot on with the Boss.
"BBE seems to be the way to go. I have heard it is almost spot on with the Boss"
jason did a video on the two. they are very very similar. IMO the BBE does sound better.
Whats that Soul Vibe sound like?
I tried to demo the soulvibe at Sam Ash but the one they had didn't work. I'm still interested in hearing it though, you have any youtube videos where your using it?
Yes I know I repeat myself.
I just ordered the BBE Two Timer.
My question is, since I am not a musician and don't get paid. I do play at open mic and on Sundays we jam at my house.
I enjoy playing and I enjoy making different sounds.
so my main question is. In what ordered what some one like me buy other peddles and if possible include what they do.
Yes I have seen a lot of vids on it, I just need you guys to explain it as if I were a 5 year old.
Abner, I think you are asking which pedals to buy?
If that's right, then my answer is don't get anymore until you are used to using the amp and the delay pedal together. Spend the time strengthening your acoustric tone as well. In time you'll be able to add more pedals, but if you did that now you would most likely not get the best out of them.
99% of harp players only ever use a delay pedal. So don't think that you need lots of pedals to be effective.
That was the word I was looking for.
When I practice I use the amp, then Acoustic. Once I get my BBE Two Timer It will be the same process. I like to hear the different sounds, the build up. Plus since I always carry a harp with me ( if im waiting for my wife ) its a lot easier to carry one harp then it is to carry a harp, amp, peddles.
The Soulvibe is pretty unique when combined with the OC-3... gives a very pleasing uber tweakable Leslie sound... Plays well with other pedals. Thanks to you, Jason for the tip on BBE! I will prob retire the Wasabi in favor of a Two Timer.
my gear set up at this time
a custom turner shell with a shure CM, a tube preamp stage line, a lonewolf delay, an EQ boss GE-7, a BBE compressor, a BBE maximizer, the amp is a Harpgear HG30.
Here's a sample of my sound ( if the link work ) the amp is miked with a shure sm58 the backing track 's from Silenzio from harmonicajam
Two questions for you experience harpsters:
1. Delay vs. Reverb:is one better? My Holy Grail reverb sounds great to me.
2. Has anyone used a Holmes Harp Commander to gig with to shape tone and also feed a line to a PA? How much does it help with feedback?
OK, so that's three questions. Here's a comment to balace it out:As I read on another blog, when asked, "Whatpedalshould be your first (if you only had one) to use with youramp?" The reply was (fromJason RicciiI believe) a Kinder Antifeedback+.
How does the anti feedback pedal work? Do you stomp it when you start to hear feed back or does it just eliminate it all the tme? I tried using a POD for a while but I don't like the tone I think I'll try the BBE because all I really need for now is delay, the anti feed back sounds like a good idea too.
the anti feedback works all the time. there is no on or off.
mt main effect is the way my hand holds the mic and cups the harp. from there, i use a cable to plug into an amp. the amp is plugged into a wall socket. viola!
Jawbone is absolutely correct. If a player knows what he is doing, the tonal variations that can be generated by mic gripping and breath techniques and changing the size of the resonance chamber created by the oral cavity can be mind blowing. People have come up and asked me if I am playing an "electronic harmonica" when the only effect being used was reverb.
This is one reason i don't ordinarily use bullet mics. I find that I can get much better response and a wider range of tonal textures from a low z PA style mic, like a Shure 545 Ultimate, EV RE 15 or Audix Fireball V.
Anyway, these days, for the most part, I'm playing through a 545 Ultimate into a MicroPOG and a RotoSim that are in between the mic and an SWR Baby Baby Blue bass amp (with a delay set to slap back in the effects loop of the amp that stays on all the time). The MicroPOG and RoptoSim are very powerful effects that I use separately or in combination, and there's no change in gain level when i turn them off. The other night when I had both pedals off, playing with hand and breath techniques to create some intertesting sounds, an experienced musician in the band asked me which pedal i was using, even though i was playing straight into the amp at the time.
Moral of the story: if you know what you are doing with mic handling and breath techniques, (and the amp or board is EQ'd properly) you don't need electronics. But, the pedals sound pretty cool, too, and sure are fun to use.
I don't have a picture in this thread because I also play guitar and have a whole bunch of pedals, some of which are shared with the guitar. My setup changes from day to day as I experiment with things.
As John P said below, much of the pedal madness is because it is fun to listen to demos of pedals, decide which one to buy, get a package with a new one, try it out, etc. Sometimes, I think that my pedals are pretty close to cool toys for adult musicians. Not that they can't be very useful sonic tools.
Delay is simply wonderful for amplified harmonica, and if I had to have one pedal, it would be a delay.
I've only gotten into amplified harmonica in the last couple of years, so I unintentionally followed John P's advice of developing acoustic skills (for a bunch of years) before I started fooling with pedals. I'm not sure what to advise new players, but practicing a lot without any amplification makes sense to me.
Also, I don't know if the rest of you have the same experience, but I often find that a pedal can sound very different with slight variations in setup, such as amp settings, volume, breath style, harmonica, etc. I've not liked a pedal on one day and finally got what it does on another.
I just purchased a Digitech RP200 from eBay for $60.I know Richard Hunter has done a lot of work with these series of pedals.Does anyone else have any thoughts orexperiencewith this effects box
I bought an RP 150 a couple of years ago--the one w/o the expression pedal. Could never figure out how to work it or program it. I used have no problems programming my old Quadraverb GT, and I consider myself reasonably tech savvy, but I just did not have the aptitude to handle the Digitech. Go figure....
My pedalboard after latest upgrades. Unfortunately I still don't try whole set live. I also need some wire organizing.
You guys have real nice equipment. Must be nice to have money and talent. I have none.
The only thing I have besides a mic, amp is Lone Wolf Two time. Not sure why I bought this.
But it is nice to see you guys having fun.
abner (BluEyes, oh well )
WOW! My HOODOO AMP has Dirty, Bright, and spoon, spring rev. add a chours and use my mouth and hands. I'm happy with my sound I think that's where you need to be no wonder some harp playes sound so BIG. How is it playing with out power& just your body???
I'm short of money too, I rare have more than $500 a month (harmonica teaching, some gigs, biology teaching, some poor scientific work), sometimes less (down to $300). However I spent all extra money on gear, I have no children and my girlfriend has her paid work too. Thanks god food and city buses is not too expensive here. I even have no car and have no ability to buy one. And I collect all my gear for at least 8years.
I replaced a Boss OC2 with BBE opto stomp and now i'm using OC2 to fatten the tone of my DIY foot stomp box.
I'm no longer in only Boss club :)
My next pedal i like to have is BBE Two Timer but i dont have place on my pedalboard, for now i must be satisfied with my delay on Boss PS 2...
Here's my current (small) board. Soon to be replaced by a Digitech rp155 for most purposes. I'll probably still keep the EQ pedal first in the chain, but I'll ditch the cheap chorus and delay.