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Please help me before I jump out the window

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Apr 10, 2009 11:32 PM GMT

Ok, I'm being a bit over dramatic.I have a one level house, so if I jump its maybe four feet.
but I do need your help. Today has not bee a good one for me.
Yesterday my wife accidentally drop my IPhone of the coffee table ( I've had it since October an Birthday present ). I have a cover and a safety screen yet it still cracked the screen.
Ok I don't need help with the IPhone I'm telling a story here.
Anyway, I was not worried I had bought a protection plan for this IPhone and my son's.
I called The store and they told me I my plan was terminated in February. This was a monthly renewal thru my credit card.
I called my credit card company, I was there is nothing they could do and that I have plenty of cash in my account and they don't know why the store could not pull the money.
ok, now I'm bumped out.
so my with comes in with a big smile and a box. My brand new Suzuki Pro Master and Fire Breath are here.......
yes, I carefully pulled them out and start giving them a toot....
WT&, I don't sound like any the greats......ok only kidding.
My problem:
The Fire Breath sound great
The Pro Master sounds great except for the draw 7 and 8 they squeal like a a stuck pig. I tried several times very softly blow and draw nothing, I'm thinking its new and it needs a little warm up to get un stuck...
I did.... Yes I was unscrewing the bottom screw. But the top screw was also moving and I stopped.... I have opened up and cleaned other harps. The only problem I had was with the Marine band....HA HA yes I found out its nails that look like screws....
so before I go and jump out the window...
Please give me some good advise. I very much like both of the harps they have a nice sweet sound to them. And every thing I have heard about Suzuki this has to be something easy to fix.....
abner (Blueyes, I am so blue I could write a great cowboy song about losing my cow and girl in that order) *
* I love county music and both old (black & white )and new western.

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Apr 11, 2009 1:06 AM GMT
John P Replied:

Tryunscrewingthe TOP screw while holding your thumb tightly over the head of the bottomscrew. The bottom is athreadedhollow post that the top screw goes into, so if you turn the bottom "screw" everything is more likely to turn. If you unscrew the TOP screw you can usually keep thebottomfrom turning with pressurefroma finger or thumb.

Apr 11, 2009 1:47 AM GMT
BluEyes Replied:

John P, thank you. Your advice help. I did open it up but I found nothing visible. I moved them (ever sogingerly) put it all back and I still have the same problem........

Im looking at the window orchocolatecake......I jump or I eat.....

Apr 11, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
BluEyes Replied:

still have the same problem, its too late too call suzuki. what a F'en let down.......

Apr 11, 2009 12:44 PM GMT
John P Replied:

i don'treallyunderstandthe nature of the problem. but I have some suggestionsanyway: Occasionally, I've had toadjustthe reed gaps on a new Suzuki. Adam Gussow has a video on how to do this. It's not difficult. Suzuki customer service is TERRIFIC. Call Os Leguisimo at Suzuki and if there's a problem he will take care of it. The Suzuki customer service number is on the Coast to Coast Music web site.

I've got 3 sets of Suzuki diatonics (myperformingset of 13 Hammonds, a spare set of 10 Firebreaths I also carry, and a set of 10 Promasters I keep around the house). The Hammonds and Firebreaths are by far the best and most durable harps I've ever played. The Promasters are great, too, but to my ear, their tone is alittletoo bright compared to the others. Twice I've hadproblemswith reeds (but not on the high end) that I could not fix with re-gapping and Os took care of the problem each time, no questions, no proof of purchase, no hassle, no delay. He can be alittlehardto reach, but hewillreturn your call and handle the problem to your satisfaction.

Promasters (and Hammonds) have a shorter fatter reed profile than the Firebreath, Hohners and Lee Oskars. Don't know if this is contributing to your problem, or if it might be yourbreathtechnique. Higher draw reedsrequirea SOFTER attack to play properly.

Apr 11, 2009 1:24 PM GMT
Jawbone K Replied:

have you loosened the reed plate screws? maybe taken the plates off and looked for a hair or tiny metal shaving that would get in the way of the reeds in their slots? or at least, with a very small thin strip of metal ( i use the strips found in the magnetic security devices found on cds when you buy one at barnes and noble or other chain merchandise stores. just slit the little plastic cover open and there are like 3 or 4 of these little very thin strops inside).

if you run a small strip around in between the reed and it's slot, you may find a burr or dislodge a piece of lint etc that is in the way of the reed.

maybe your best course of action would be to find our whos services suzukis in the usa and just send that harp to them.

Apr 11, 2009 2:09 PM GMT
BluEyes Replied:

Jawbone K and John P thank you,

Last night I was able to take it all apart .

I looked at the comb saw nothing.

looked at the reeds thru a light I saw nothing ( yes, I was also hoping to find something )

They had free movements.

and its only thru the draw notes the blow is good.

since the Suzuki were new I used very soft breath. the thing is that when I draw on them ( 7 & 8 ) it seems like it gets stuck and then its fine then its bad again......

I will take it apart again and use some or your sugestion....

I will call Suzuki on Monday (so, far away ) and try and get Oz on the phone. Its my only "D" hard and im gettingcomfortable on open mic nits.....


Apr 11, 2009 6:20 PM GMT
John P Replied:

In youroriginalpost, you said the 8 & 9 draw were "squealing." But, if they are "sticking" open the gap SLIGHTLY with a piece of paper or a feeler gauge and that should solve the problem.

i have sometimes had to open some of the reed gaps a little on the high end of my Suzukis. It's really easy to do even for me and i don't work on my harps at all. Watch Gussow's video on this and you will learn what to do. I used to use a piece of paper, then i bought a feelergaugefrom Dave Payne and now i use that. You only need to open the gap a LITTLE BIT. And make sure you'reworkingon the DRAW reed.

Apr 11, 2009 9:11 PM GMT
BluEyes Replied:

John P

Im putting my self out and making a fool of my self here. But if a newbie reads this and help then a little wont matter.

the individual draw reed do I place the paper under the plat. In other words when one draw on the reed does it go up into the comb ( in think so, not sure ).

I want to make sure before I start going the wrong way.

hope this madesome kindof since.,

Apr 11, 2009 10:12 PM GMT
John P Replied:

The draw reeds are on the BOTTOM of the harmonica. You don't need to unscrew the reed plate toadjustthe gap on DRAW reeds. Just slip the paper all the way under the reed you want to adjust and raise it SLIGHTLY away from he reed plate. I'm no expert at this but that's what i do and it seems to work. Do it GENTLY and only a little bit. you don't need/want to open the gap very much. Then put the cover plates back on and try playing it. If you get no sound, you'veopenedthe gap too far, so be careful and only open it a little at a time. If it works, then do the other reed that's sticking.

Apr 12, 2009 5:53 AM GMT
RockFury Replied:

Hi Abner

disclaimer first - I'm hardly in the answering technical questions stage of my harp playing life cycle

but just a thought if tinkering isn't helping any

I sometimes get some squealing on the higher draw notes for non-mechanical reasons and find dropping my jaw a little while playing will sort out the problem

don't know if higher keys or different brands are more susceptible to squealing (haven't found any suzukis in my neck of the woods)

anyways good luck with your playing


Apr 14, 2009 3:56 PM GMT
BluEyes Replied:

RockFury im not sure if all the tinkering helped are lowering my jaw and opening up helped... im still practicing and notice very lettle problems..

Thanks toeveryonewho throw intheirknowledge....

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