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Samson Wirless tone suck

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Feb 16, 2009 2:52 AM GMT
When I try my Samson, I lose gain and volume when compared to a cable. I tried adjusting it for a hotter the point where the clipping light would blink, but still no luck. Any thoughts? I've stopped using it because of this issue. Maybe some sort of preamp or something? The simpler the better. Currently I use an impedance adaptor (rat tail style) that goes from XLR to 1/4 out (same one I use with a cable). That goes into my Kinder AFB+. Thanks

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Feb 16, 2009 5:16 AM GMT
Brutus Maximus Replied:

I've never tried a Samson, though I believe that's what Jason uses. What model are you using? I've got an AKG Flexx wireless system, which has worked beautifully for me in the nine months I've owned it. If anything, the tone is clearer and fuller than with a quality, 20 ft. cable. I got the regular beltpack transmitter instead of the "guitar bug" style--it's a minor hassle having to still deal with a vestigial cord, but the transmitter wattage is about double that of the smaller units.

Feb 16, 2009 4:27 PM GMT
Fugazzi Replied:

I have the same one as Jason. It sounds like plugging into the low gain input of an amp when compared to cable. :(

Feb 16, 2009 7:56 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

With just about any wireless, you will have to turn the volume on the amp setting up at least a notch or two, which is much like when you use a hi-z mic with a cable longer than 20-25 feet. BTW, not all of those matching line transformers are equal in quality, so you may also want to mess with a few of them as well, and I think the omnes made by Shure tends to be one of the better ones and most of the ones from places like Radio Shack, to be nice about it, is total junk.

The one thing I first mentioned is the first thing I noticed with just about every single one of them regardless of who makes them. The one I use is a 1995 Nady Wireless 3D, which is a guitar unit, and one of the last ones they made that in the line of sight, you could go as far as 1500 feet.

Mar 09, 2009 12:18 PM GMT
Civet Cat Replied:

Man Thats weird! I do know they are very sensitive in you have the volume on the reciever all the way up? hmm...I've had a few and I always got a hotter signal then with a chord...Call me mike.

Mar 14, 2009 8:21 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

With every manufacturer, they require some time to fool with it to find the ideal setup and sio that's gonna mean what works right with one will be a disaster for another one. Even the same model from the same manufacturer can vary and so you do have to take time to mess with it.

Mar 15, 2009 9:18 PM GMT
Fugazzi Replied:

Ah, ha! I tried using the 1/4 out instead of the XLR out...much hotter signal...I was actually able to cause the unit to clip (so now I have to recalibrate). The impedence matching part of the Kinder AFB had to still be adjusted compared to that of a cable, but not nearly as much as before.

The amp is much hotter and nastier now...can probably do most gigs without the AFB, but I tend to leave it inline anyways.


Jason- I just saw your post to call. I'll wait until I play more with the 1/4 out.

Mar 17, 2009 5:27 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

I should also add that room acoustics do have an effect on the signal and also if you do a gig outdoors because the wind can also blow the signal all over the place as well.

May 03, 2009 7:46 PM GMT
Tony W Replied:

I have a Samson AP1 and the Fender deely to plug into the mic. The receiver is smaller than the Kinder deely bob. So far it has been a blast. There is only one knob on the receiver and slips under the handle of the HG50 and stay put. The instructions say to have it in front of you but it works just fine behind me.


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