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Seydals; More air?????

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luke j
Mar 02, 2009 11:52 AM GMT

I'm interested in buying a seydal 1847 buthavebeen put off by reading somewhere ( cant remember where ) that they're quite big and requiremore air to play. I'd just like to get a few opinions before I take the plunge and spend £70 on one. Thanks


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Mar 04, 2009 3:45 AM GMT
Tony W Replied:

Hey Luke,

Holes are bigger but IMHO no extra air is needed because they are super air tight. I did have to clean up the edges on the reed plates cause my lips are too soft I guess. Anyway the major problem is that I didn't want to play any of my other harps after the first 1847 and had to buy a bunch more. They are also very very loud but like any thing else, they are not perfect and not for everyone.

Tony


Mar 04, 2009 9:37 AM GMT
Fredrik H Replied:

Hey, I agree with Tony W, I haven't noticed that you need extra air compared to for example Hohner Marine Band de Luxe.

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Mar 04, 2009 10:13 AM GMT
Elk River Replied:

Online dealer bias alert....

but....

They are the same size basically as a Lee Oskar. The covers, are a bit narrower at the mouth, as I recall.


Mar 04, 2009 7:56 PM GMT
BlueMoose Replied:

They may need slight gap adjustment to suit how you play, but I usually do that with most out of the box harps.

moose


Mar 07, 2009 6:31 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

I disagree here because if anything, first thing you have to do is adjust your embouchure becuse this is always necessary whenever you play different brands/manufacturers stuff because they're all different. If anything, once you've done this adjustment, if anything, you should need much less breath force because of all the stock instruments available, they have the tightest slot tolerances around and the tighter the reed slot tolerance, the less breath force you will need. My opinion is closer to Tony's and what I'm saying is something the average player doesn't realize any of this at all and plus the average player tends to use far too much breath force all the time to begin with. Remember this: if a harp plays easily it can bend easily, but if it can bend easily, it can also be blown out easily, and the single biggest cause of it is too much breath force.


Mar 09, 2009 3:38 PM GMT
AirMojo (Ken H) Replied:

Like Barbeuque Bob said... if you play correctly they do NOT take more air.

It may take a little getting use to them, depending on what you currently play.

I bought a few of these from Rupert Oysler when they first came out a couple of years ago, and had no problem... these are now my favorite harps!

Before that I played mainly Lee Oskars, and some custom Marine Bands.

Now I find it hard to go back to a Marine Band, but I could get use to them again, if I had to.

Try one and see if you like it... get one in your favorite key and enjoy !

I plan on getting one of Ben Bouman's Beta-harp 1847's just to see how much better they could be... gotta be awesome when starting with a great harp to begin with !


Mar 10, 2009 2:45 PM GMT
luke j Replied:

I think I will try one. I currently play play mb deluxes and I have a Harrison custom which has taught me so much in the last couple of months in breath control. Thanks for the input andopinionsguys



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