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SEYDEL BLUES SESSION !

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HARPMAN
May 24, 2009 1:09 AM GMT

I get SEYDEL BLUES SESSION HARMONICA with valve yesterday.

Very easy to play with bending and holding.

I like SEYDEL BLUES SESSION`s mouthpiece best.

http://ameblo.jp/harpman/entry-10266351674.html (PHOTO)


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May 24, 2009 4:31 AM GMT
HARPMAN Replied:

>BttBONE

Thanks for comment.

I play Suzuki`s HARPMASTER sometimes.

I play LEE OSKAR HARMONICA every gig, I think it has durabilityvery well.

LEE OSKAR HARMONICA`s replacement reed is very reasonable($10) in Japan.

※Sorry, I speak and write English a little.


May 25, 2009 7:33 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

BttBone, I hate to say it, but it sounds like you use far too much breath force to begin with and all harps will blow out fast if you continue to play like that. Most players often have no real idea as to how hard they're really playing until they play in front of an experienced teacher who knows better and won't hesitate to tell them in no uncertain terms.

When you play with too much force, the amount of saliva you produce AKA playing with a wet mouth increases dramatically, and none of these things has ANYTHING to do with tongue blocking or whatever method you choose to get your single notes, and you need to seriously work on this because it's gonna haunt you with the same problems regardless of what harmonicas you buy. It's too often problem that starts from a newbie trying to learn and they're always trying to FORCE things to happen, especially when they're trying to learn things, such as bending notes, and then this bad playing habit gets heavily ingrained and they usually complain all of these harps are defective when their true problems clearly lies in their playing technique.

Are there manufacturing defects? Yes, but FAR more often than not, most of the time it's the player's own playing technique that's the REAL problem 95% of the time more than defects in the harmonicas, real or percieved, and this is something many players often don't want to face up to, let alone consider it at all.

As long as you continue to use too much force, your harps will quickly go out of tune and you'll be blowing them out very quickly REGARDLESS of who makes them, and the rate you just blew out those two harps is quite telling, to say the least.


May 25, 2009 8:57 PM GMT
jawbone s Replied:

Hey Bob - I agree with 99% of what you say (I know you like percentages) ;-) (Imagine a smiley face thingy here) This is something I contantly work on and it was really brought home when I tried the Delta Frost and Suzuki Bluesmasters. Now, other than having a decibel meter or someone around that is qualified, or stalling reeds, is there a way to tell what would be the "proper" force. Bearing in mind that "not waking the baby" softness is a bit vaugh. Where are those doggone emoticons!!!! Should you just start out really low? because I still get all caught up with adrenaline and my band doesn't even play loud.


May 26, 2009 6:02 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

Jawbone, that adreniline thing is kind of reverting back to the macho caveman thing of trying to force things to happen, and trust me, those habits takes TONS of woodshedding to overcome because I did that at one time until I got to see a personal demonstration by the late great Big Walter Horton, who I befriended in the 70's. A friend of mine came up from NYC to see him one time and after the end of the night, Walter had all of his stuff packed up, and my friend asked him how he did his intro for his cover of LW's Can't Hold On Much Longer.

Now most people I've met at the time usually play it really hard, but he used my key of A Marine Band (remember, in the 70's there were no such thing as custom diatonics, everything was stock out of the box), and he barely played it, and it was almost like a whisper it was so soft. I later tried it out that way, and bingo, there it was!!! I went back to all sorts of recordings and much to my surprise, many of the greats also played quite a lot softer than I had thought so it opened my eyes uup.

Many people also play very physically uptight and this makes the breath control problem 100 times worse, and I recommend eveyr harp player take some breathing exercises from a reputable vocal coach.


May 26, 2009 7:33 PM GMT
blogward Replied:

I have to agree with bttbone - I have played all flavors of Hohner for nearly forty years and only ever blew one reed out when I was starting - I play soft, OK? I've been using the same 3 Golden Melodies and Marine Bands to overbend for three years, playing in all twelve keys on one harp and practising about 2-3 hours a day, and they are all still A1. I bought four Seydels last year and TWO of them have had reeds go - starting off flat, then failing completely. I think the combs are great, but the reeds and covers are second rate. I won't be buying Seydel again.


May 26, 2009 9:21 PM GMT
jawbone s Replied:

Doggonnitt - Back to the woodshed - I was really hoping that cotton stuffed in my cheeks was gonna do the trick!!!!!


May 27, 2009 5:12 PM GMT
Bluesie Replied:

I also have to agree with bttbone even though I also agree with Bob concerning the right breathforce to play. One dosen't contradict the other. If you buy a Blues Session and don't use it, there is not a great deal of chance it'll break!!! Those Blues Session are having a bad reputation because, if you search the net, you'll easely find out there are a lot of frustrated buyers of those harps, right breath force used or not. I bought only one and it broke before much older harps from other brands.


May 27, 2009 6:45 PM GMT
Elk River Replied:

There is this line you walk as a manufacturer if you make a harp tight and responsive, it will blow out quickly. Customs are even worse in that regard. The more sloppy a tolerance is, the longer that harp will last.

Which all brings me to the point of how subjective this stuff is. I've got Solist Pros, Sessions, Solists, Marine Bands, etc. I've played for years. Not every harp is right for every person and every person's playing style.


May 28, 2009 4:52 PM GMT
Elk River Replied:

BttBone,

I got to thinking about it, and seeing you spelled Rupert with two "Ps" My guess would be that he never got it... especially if it were spelled that way in the email address you used. Here's the e-mail address:

rupert.oysler@seydel1847.com

I can't promise you will like what he'll have to say, but you should here something.


Mar 10, 2011 7:02 PM GMT
BttBone Replied:

I purchased a blues session recently and it lasted less the 4 hours of playing. I blew out the 6 blow reed. I wrote Ruppert about the issue three different times and received no response. I also purchased a soloist pro that lasted 10 hours before I blew out the 4 blow reed. Although the harps sounded good they did not last. I can not afford to shell out money for harps that don't hold up. I have been practicing a lot of tongue blocking and maybe this is a contributing factor to the reed failure. ( I can blow harder using tongue blocking) I don't care, I have harmonicas by other manufactures that have lasted a long time. I think I will try some Suzuki products the next time around. Good luck with the harp.


Mar 11, 2011 2:38 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

It sounds more like you use far too much breath force in your playing, especially when bending notes and that will blow out any harp real quick, especially if you bend too hard and past the floor of the bend no matter who makes them.



Mar 14, 2011 12:22 AM GMT
walterharp Replied:

sometimes reeds just go even if you use moderate breath force. i had a seydel 1847 go early on. never got any response on that after a half dozen emails. i have only blown out a few harps over the last few years. i also lost a lower blow reed, which is really not so easy to blow out because you don't even bend them so do not tend to stress them



Apr 27, 2011 2:46 AM GMT
The Egg Replied:

Hello harp friends,
I am a newbieto this forum. I just ordered blues sessions in low C and low D and was expecting them to arrive this week. This thread doesn't look all that promising but I am still keen to try them out.

I just posted a few youtube vids of me playing if anyone's interested. I would welcome any feedback.

Cheers

Mike

http://www.youtube.com/user/Egg812



Apr 27, 2011 3:05 AM GMT
The Egg Replied:

Hello harp friends,
I am a newbieto this forum. I just ordered blues sessions in low C and low D and was expecting them to arrive this week. This thread doesn't look all that promising but I am still keen to try them out.

I just posted a few youtube vids of me playing if anyone's interested. I would welcome any feedback.

Cheers

Mike

http://www.youtube.com/user/Egg812




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