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What is your favorite delay or reverb unit?

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HARPMAN
Jan 24, 2009 2:26 PM GMT
My delay unit is "BOSS DM-2".
It is analog delay, made 30(?)years before.
I don`t like digital delay.


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Jan 24, 2009 2:53 PM GMT
Kingley Replied:

I would love a DM-2!!
I currently use a Daphon E20DL (analog). Sometimes I use a Belcat DLY 303 (digital) I agree that in most cases an analog pedal is better for harp (it's my personal preference).
However the Lone Wolf is digital and seems to get rave reviews from it's users.


Jan 24, 2009 5:20 PM GMT
Pat P Replied:

I don't often use a delay, but when I do, the Dan Electro Dan Echo works well for me. I think different delays work better with different Amp/Mic combinations, so YMMV.

p


Jan 24, 2009 7:06 PM GMT
Fugazzi Replied:

I have a Line 6 DL-4 currently (my presets are analog, stereo, and reverse). I am interested in trying out the BBE Two-timer. The DL-4 doesn't add any feedback unless I go crazy with the stereo setting. My amp has a reverb tank, but I am not into using it live.


Jan 24, 2009 11:38 PM GMT
Civet Cat Replied:

BBE Two Timer and then the boss-DM 2 the two timer has two analog delay settings in one for 150.00 dollars and out does the competition!


Jan 25, 2009 4:54 AM GMT
OrthodoxBlues Replied:

I haven't had the chance to compare my pedal with any others out there. While looking for one for guitar, I wound up getting a (pricey) Skreddy Echo, which is digital but with analog controls, meant to be able to sound like the old tape delays. I love it with both guitar and harp, but I wonder if I could get a similar feel with a less expensive pedal, so each instrument could have one. This pedal gives an amazing level of headroom (the sense that you are playing in a larger room).


Jan 25, 2009 11:34 AM GMT
Fugazzi Replied:

Jason, have you been gigging with the Two-Timer? You can get them for around $100 used!!!


Jan 26, 2009 11:14 AM GMT
Fugazzi Replied:

Anyone prefer reverb???


Jan 26, 2009 4:14 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

The reverb pedals I use are the discontinued Guyatone MR-2 and the Digitech Digiverb for the spring setting. My all time favorite outboard reverb unit is the Premier 90, which has often been used by some people as a preamp unit, but it is faar deeper under the ocean sounding than the more famous '63 Fender units and the setting at 1/3 of the way up is the Fender cranked. It's the only unit I've ever found that can get the reverb sound from the LW session that produced Blue Midnight, Sad Hours, Mean Old World, and Boogie smack on the money and I haven't found a single reverb pedal that comes close to it.

For delay, I use a Guyatone MD-2 (now replaced by the MD-3 because it sounds more like an analog than a digital).


Jan 26, 2009 11:25 PM GMT
RUTABAGA Replied:

Lone Wolf Delay


Jan 27, 2009 1:02 AM GMT
Fugazzi Replied:

I have reverb on my amp but haven't used it much. To be honest, something is wrong with its tone knob. It doesn't work if I turn it up...I get a weird oscillation thing going. That being said, I don't think I'd use the knob anyways. Set with a short dwell (it has three knobs) it doesn't give me any ringing feedback.

I think I like delay more, though. It really fattens things up. At a lot of venues, the room has its own verb going. I dunno.


Jan 27, 2009 2:46 AM GMT
Brown Ale Guy Replied:

I've only tried the Harp Delay by Lone Wolf, but it sure seems to work fine for me.


Feb 05, 2009 9:06 AM GMT
Randy S Replied:

Alesis nanoverb. Cool little unit. Albeit digital.


Feb 05, 2009 12:43 PM GMT
Bertram B Replied:

I found the Electro Harmonix Holy Grail + very useful...


Feb 06, 2009 6:32 PM GMT
Bruce W Replied:

Lone Wolf all the way. I have tried a Daphon E10AD Analog Delay and found it very good for its price. I think it is an Ibanez Delay clone. I had a BOSS DD5 clone from GLX and was disappointed. Lone Wolf.


Feb 07, 2009 2:01 PM GMT
Branislav B Replied:

I like to build my gear (you can see some of them in photos in my profile). Driven by good reviews on the net I've built Premier Reverb 90. It works but there is some hum when I turn up an amp. If I get rid of hum this unit will be the only delay/reverb thing I'll use.


Feb 25, 2009 5:21 PM GMT
Kingley Replied:

I have just got a Boss DM-2 and I can now see exactly why poeple rave about this pedal. Over the years I have used a lot of delay pedals, but nothing has come close to this puppy


Feb 26, 2009 7:24 PM GMT
OrthodoxBlues Replied:

Kingley --

It is often difficult to describe different sounds, but what sets the DM-2 apart for you? As I posted below, I have a wonderful delay, but I think that the harmonica might want it own, apart from sharing with guitar.


Mar 04, 2009 6:12 AM GMT
OrthodoxBlues Replied:

I've read more about the Boss DM-2, and I can understand why many consider it to be the best vintage analog delay. I also understand it to be the basis of the design of the BBE Two Timer. I decided to get a second delay unit, so that the harmonica and guitar can each have one. I selected a fairly rare and obscure one called the Donnerbox Spatial Delay. The one that is on its way to me has the option of modulation on the repeat. I've heard clips of this box for guitar, and it sounds amazing. What I don't know if which of the two will wind up being for harp and guitar.


Mar 10, 2009 2:59 AM GMT
snakeman r Replied:

lone wolf has worked for me with my harpgear 50 ,i used a dan echo with my 59 reissue retubed bassman and that also worked fine


Mar 10, 2009 2:11 PM GMT
Brad F Replied:

I have a Lone Wolf and it sounds great! I havn't taken the time to explore all the possibilities yet (differnet styles/harps) but I am gettng there. My only complaint is you need a Phillips screwdriver to replace the battery. I run it on a pedal board and so that isn't much of a problem.

bf


Mar 12, 2009 11:58 AM GMT
Roy H Replied:

I,m currently using a Boss RV 2 that Kinder modded for me years ago through my Meteor # 40 and it sounds great.I,ve had a super clean Premier 90 that sounds awsome although it has a bad hum to it making a little to much noise to gig with or evenpractice with for that matter.I was recently told via another harp board that it needs caps.Would anybody know anyone in the Jersey area that would be able to fix this problem for me,if so give me the heads up I would really appreciate it.Thanks,RJ


Mar 12, 2009 12:25 PM GMT
FatJim Replied:

I like the Electroharmonix Holy Grail (the original bog standard version), but I only use the spring setting. I also bagged a bargain Danecho on ebay a few years ago - I like it a lot, but it definitely needs either a mod or a voltage follower box to preserve tone with hi-z crystal mics. I didn't want to mess with the pedal so I use an external box - Ironman Curtis' MicMojo design (it's in the Harp-l archives somewhere). The DIY pedal mod is at http://www.e-basteln.de/harp/#extern


Mar 14, 2009 7:21 PM GMT
Branislav B Replied:

I, finnaly, modified my DIY Premier Reverb and get rid of hum. It's owesome. Besides giving me warm tube reverb Normal control works as preamp and drives an amp. I've added photo of the unit to my photo collection.


Mar 18, 2009 5:31 AM GMT
BlowsMeAwy Greg Replied:

I'm chiming in late, but I'm also a big fan of the Lone Wolf delay. I used the Dan Echo pedal for years - it has a wide range of useless settings and a small range of useful ones. The Lone Wolf is warmer, has a very high impedance input that won't rob tone, and a huge range of useful settings. If you turn the speed way up and the repeats way up, you get something more like reverb than slapback, which I really like.

/Greg

http://www.blowsmeaway.com


Mar 18, 2009 11:40 AM GMT
Boris Plotnikov Replied:

Why most harmonica players so likes delays?

For me undelayed tone is clearer and solid, delayed a bit muddy. I use delay only foratmospheric pieces.


Mar 21, 2009 2:18 AM GMT
Fugazzi Replied:

I just got a BBE Two Timer and Line 6 Verbzilla...traded my DL4...No regrets. Both pedals are awesome!!! I am trying to do a Verbzilla vid for YouTube tomorrow.


Mar 21, 2009 3:28 AM GMT
John P Replied:

I tried the Two Timer and i thought it was BRIGHT and a little brittle sounding. Not warm to my ear. High quality pedal, though.


Mar 21, 2009 2:55 PM GMT
John P Replied:

Boris, Although i like a fairly clean sound, i don't like playing dry. Besides giving the sound some thickness, depth and ambience, to my ear, reverb (or delay set to slapback) evens out the textural differences between a bent note and an unbent note, and so sort of makes everything a little smoother.


Mar 22, 2009 12:20 PM GMT
Tony E Replied:

I use an Ibanez DDL Delay II pedal which I bought in Tokyo in 1988. I mainly go for a clean sound so this device does the job. On stage I use it with an ART tube pre and an Audix Fireball V


May 11, 2009 8:26 AM GMT
Bart L Replied:

Hi !

I prefer Boss reverb RV-5 for clean sound (tube preamp ART V3 Studio+ mic SM58) to jazz gigs, but sometimes I use Artec analog delay (cheap but very friendly for harmonica) with Bassman RI + ElectroVoice RE10 to blues gigs.

Artec analog delay has very similar sound to Lone Wolf but it's not so expensive...


May 13, 2009 1:39 PM GMT
bluesmandan Replied:

I have been using the Wasabi Rock-A-Bye for over a year now and love it... Combination echo and overdrive pedal that can be dialed in to just about any config that you would need from clean slap echo to full blown overdriven trippy repeat... The unit is also built using a die cast metal housing and built like a tank...

Other than a Behringer tube pre-amp when micing direct to pa, the only other item I would like to add to the arsenal would be some type of octave down effect like the POG, Boss, or Danelectro unit.


Oct 04, 2009 6:17 AM GMT
OrthodoxBlues Replied:

I'm resurrecting this thread because I now have three delays and a fourth on the way. I also play guitar, but that's hardly an excuse, because two pedals would cover two instruments just fine.

They are:

1. Skreddy Echo, high end digital delay with modulation, meant to sound like an old tape delay. It is very clean, wonderful for clean guitar delay, and nice for a


Oct 04, 2009 6:18 AM GMT
OrthodoxBlues Replied:

Maybe my post was too long, it was cut off ...

2. Donnerbox Spatial Delay, also with modulation, a bit warmer than the Skreddy, a little harder to dial in. Digital.

3. First Act Delay modified to not have volume drop, these were sold alongside First Act guitars for kids in ToysRUs stores about two years ago. They were discovered by guitarists to be an amazingly good delay for little money. The biggest problem was a notable volume drop when the pedal was engaged, so the previous owner modded mine to get rid of that problem. It is digital, but very analog sounding. The original note is rather clean, but the repeats are dirty, but quite warm. It sounds good with harmonica, especially if you want a dirtier blues sound, but you have to dial in the settings well, because you can get a somewhat high-pitched scratchy sound with the repeats.

4. Boss DM-2 on the way, had to try the gold standard, and can't wait to find out how the cheapie "toy" pedal stacks up against "the king."

I haven't made any recordings for here yet, but I have done a couple of pedal demos for friends who are guitarists, so I know my lo-fi recording system isn't terrible. My goal is to record a comparison of these four pedals.

I haven't stacked the delays for harmonica yet, but I achieved a cool effect by running the guitar into the First Act and then the Skreddy, with the First Act set on a slapback (very short delay) and the Skreddy set on a later delay with some modulation. It gave the guitar a warm trail of sound and loads of headroom. I need to try some stacking of delays with harmonica next.


Oct 06, 2009 6:34 PM GMT
Guy D Replied:

The Deluxe Memory Man by Electro-Harmonix. Nothing comes close for delay and it also has the warmest reverb.


Oct 06, 2009 7:38 PM GMT
John P Replied:

Rackmount: Alessis Quadraveb GT

Pedal: Wampler Analog Echo (It's actually a digital delay/echo w/ true bypass.)

I tried the BBE Two Timer, but i thought it sounded much too BRIGHT. Never tried a Lone Wolf, but I don't use bullet mics and from what i understand, that's what the LW is designed to work with. A guitar player turned me on to Wampler and I'm glad he did. Among other things, it has a tone control that's very useful for harp. The problem with so many guitar pedals is that they are not harmonica friendly because they either cause feedback or suck gain/tone when used for harp.


Oct 08, 2009 1:41 AM GMT
John P Replied:

Wampler is a boutique pedal maker. Pedals are hand made to order and sold through the Wampler pedals website. About 3 weeks between ordering and shipping. Not all that expensive ($189 plus shipping for the "Analog Echo" which is actually a digital delay/echo that sounds analog). If you sign up for Wampler's newsletter there's a $10 discount. A guitar player I play with uses Wampler pedals and told me about them.

The Analog Echo is harmonica friendly and has 4 control knobs: Level, Repeats, Tone and Delay. These are very useful for dialing in the sound you want to get and adjusting for the


Oct 08, 2009 1:45 AM GMT
John P Replied:

Wampler is a boutique pedal maker. Pedals are hand made to order and sold through the Wampler pedals website. About 3 weeks between ordering and shipping. Not all that expensive ($189 plus shipping for the "Analog Echo" which is actually a digital delay/echo that sounds analog). If you sign up for Wampler's newsletter there's a $10 discount. A guitar player I


Oct 08, 2009 1:55 AM GMT
John P Replied:

I don't know what happened but about 2/3 of my last post didn't show up and it looks like the rest of it got mixed in with text from another post. I'll send the original to anyone who wants it via the mailbox (I copied it).


Oct 08, 2009 5:45 AM GMT
OrthodoxBlues Replied:

The site isn't working well for me tonight, I can't see all the threads here despite several tries. I would like to read the rest of your post, John. I'm very interested in delays and plan to watch the YouTube posted below.


Oct 08, 2009 6:10 PM GMT
John P Replied:

The oscillation from all the delay pedals must have crashed this thread!


Oct 08, 2009 6:57 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

Or maybe it's suffering from gear overload!!! lol


Oct 08, 2009 8:15 PM GMT
arnenym Replied:

It cant be a lonewolf pedal. They work properly and is my favourite!


Oct 08, 2009 9:18 PM GMT
walterharp Replied:

i have only compared cheap digital to lone wolf digital, but have been using the lone wolf for a couple of years now and like it lots, arnenym spends lots of time listening to amps, so he is a good reference point.

the purists like analog, but they are a good bit more expensive and i am not sure the average joe in the audience can tell the difference


Oct 09, 2009 6:14 AM GMT
jon s Replied:

i like the MXR Carbon Copy. but im going to get the lonewolf harp delay one day.


Oct 12, 2009 12:57 AM GMT
OrthodoxBlues Replied:

I finally did a lo-fi harp delay comparison test, but it is so lo-fi that it is irritatingly full of crackles. So, listen at your own risk! It is on my profile. I also included a short, equally crackly jam with the Boss DM-2. The comparison includes:

First Act Delay: cheapo sold in ToysRUs in '07 and '08, discovered on the guitar forums to be a fairly good delay, mine is modified to rid it of the worst problem: volume drop

Donnerbox Spatial Delay: fairly rare digital delay with modulation on the repeats (that means it messes with the repeats something like an old tape delay)

Skreddy Echo: pricey and precise digital guitar delay, offers "warble" to imitate old tape delays

Boss DM-2: the gold standard analog delay, I think it sounds a bit better in the jam recording than in the comparison, if you can get past those awful crackles

I believe that the Boss DM-2 sounds best, but all, even the First Act, added a lot to the sound.


Oct 14, 2009 6:15 AM GMT
OrthodoxBlues Replied:

Harpaholic --

I'm not sure why you were hearing recordings overlapping. I decided to delete these recordings, because the crackling is so present that it is hard to hear the purpose of the demo. I was using an iPhone to record. I have a friend who has decent recording equipment, so I will try again ... but it may take a while.


Dec 10, 2009 8:00 PM GMT
Boris Plotnikov Replied:

Is there anyone who compared lonewolf harp delay vs harp delay v2. I've bought v1, but I'm not completely happy as dry portion of signal loss high frequencies a little, so tone is not enough crisp for me if I play jazz tunes with clean amped tone. Anyway it reduce feedback that is very good for overdriven tone. Is there anyone who have the same problems?



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