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bad draw on 2 and 3

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dana l
Jan 02, 2010 12:41 PM GMT

how do i fix this? its a hohner hot metal

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Jan 02, 2010 5:59 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

Dana, if you've bought a Hohner Hot Metal model, the first thing I'm gonna assume is that you are a newbie to the harmonica.I need a much more detailed explanation of why you think you have a problem there because what you're saying tells little. This is not a diss, so don't take it that way. There may be a problem from a manufacturing standpoint, but at least 75% of the time, the problem often has very little to do with the manufacturing end, and more often than not, it's usually gonna be the player's own personal playing technique that tends to be the real culprit and 98% of newbies are often very brutally hard on harmonicas, especially in therms of their breath force and when they're teaching themselves, they often really don't have a real clue as to how how they're really playing.

Jan 02, 2010 6:26 PM GMT
jawbone s Replied:

Hey Dana - If you are new to this, the 2 draw, ironically, the root in second position can be the hardest to get to sound right. Most players, when they first started are sure that the 2 draw is broken, but alas, it is generally technique. Try playing really really gently and see if anything happens - let us know how it turns out.

Jan 02, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
John P Replied:

Complaints about "bad" 2 and 3 holes draw notes are usually due to incorrect breath technique rather than any defect on the harmonica. A different bending technique is required to get the 2 and 3 hole draw bends,. The player must open the throat to play these bends.

That being said, the gapping on the harp perhaps could stand to be adjusted. But generally the problem is with the player, not the instrument. We've all experienced this when first starting to play, so you shouldn't feel like we're pointing fingers at you.

Jan 03, 2010 11:51 AM GMT
dana l Replied:

well i dont think im using too much force. the people here dont share in my passion to learn. so im not loud by any means, i think its a cheap harp but something i will learn to get the basics with. i have taught my self how to play guitar over the last year i should be able to pick it up. it just sounds airy when i draw these two

Jan 03, 2010 2:20 PM GMT
John P Replied:

I never said anything about using "too much force." It's a question of technique. Open your throat as if you are yawning as you inhale and bend. If you do this, the pitch of the draw notes in the 2 or 3 hole will drop. A slightly softer attack may also help, but softer attack alone won't do it.

Jan 03, 2010 2:23 PM GMT
jawbone s Replied:

Careful now Dana, there are some pretty passionate people around here!! ;-).

If you are sure it is the harp you could always buy another one in another key. If you are as passionate as you say, you will need one in many more keys anyway. I would also suggest a better quality harmonica, possibly a special 20. Hope this works out for you. Let us know how you are doing.

Jan 03, 2010 5:46 PM GMT
dana l Replied:

thanks everyone

Jan 04, 2010 4:33 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

No matter how long you've been playing, much like life, it's always an ongoing learning process. Most beginners never think they're playing too hard, and from the years I was giving lessons, just about every newbie did, and often they just really don't know it, and a big part is that they're rarely around people who are well skilled and know better and breath control is an important issue about playing. Many newbies often have a much harder draw breath than a blow breath, and when they're attempting to teach themselves, when something frustrates them, they will often try to force it to happen and many times unknowingly use more force to get it done.

If you have the exact same problem with another harmonica in the same key, it is obvious that the harmonica is not the real problem, but the playing technique. Again, this is not a diss. My background is mainly 30+ years as a pro, and I know plenty about the passion of learning and if you didn't have the passion and drive, you'd never learn anything.

Jan 08, 2010 1:16 PM GMT
Andrew T Replied:

I read about one method where you simply breathe in and out of the harp naturally with your mout over the 1, 2, and 3 holes. Then gradually single out just the 2 or 3 (depending on which one you're trying to improve upon in terms of your tone; I recommend starting with the 2 hole), then keep breathing through the single hole til you've internalized how the 2 and 3 holes should sound unbent. That's one way, anyhow. That might not be what everyone does but it was recommended in a Jon Gindick book for beginners I read about a year ago. Good luck :)

Jan 21, 2010 8:39 AM GMT
Boris Plotnikov Replied:

Throw to recycler your hot metal, it's very bad Chinese harmonica. Buy something good like Special 20, Golden Melody or Marine Band deluxe. Open and relax your jaw, relax your neck, breath by diaphragm (by chest).

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