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Ana ROct 22, 2009 4:14 PM GMT
As my father ,who just recently fully accepted that his crazy doughter will play harmonica till the rest of her life, decided to buy me a harp for a birthday, I need you advice about which harmonica I should order, because I don't wanna buy any of harmonicas I already have.
This one has to be somehow special:)
My friend will be attending that harp festival at Bristol and he can buy me a harp there.
So mine question is WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT SEYDEL CLASSIC 1847!!
Should I go for that harp?
Now, I'm playing on MB Deluxe and I never tried any Seydel's harmonicas!!!
I need your advice really fast because I have till tomorrow to decide which one to order!!!!
Thanks my dear harp friends!!!!
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The Seydel 1847 Classic has fully sealed comb, wheras the MB Deluxe is only partially sealed (on the outer edges), and the Seydel is the right way to do it. The Seydel is also louder because of the tight slot tolerances and their tuning is comprimise that's essentially just intonation with the comprimised notes being 5 & 9 draw tuned 2 cents flat rather than 3 cents sharp as in 19 limit just or 29-31 cents flat as in 7 limit just.
I'm basically a MB guy, be it stock or customs, which is what I normally play as a tradtional blues player, but I much prefer the Seydel over the MB Deluxe 9even tho it is an improvement over the standard MB.
I think that I'll go for Seydel:)
Joe, the reason why they choke on you easily is because they're gapped lower out of the factory than most harps and pushing them to the limit in part tends to use more air at times. It takes a bit of time to get used to that. This is not an accusation of you playing too hard all the time, but many players who aren't used to a lower gap setting have a very similar problem you have regardless of who makes them. I know of a few people who play the Bushman Delta Frosts, which are made by Suzuki, and they have the exact same problem you're experiencing while many others who play them don't, and many times the technique that may have worked well with one harp may not work as well with another, and you have to take time to woodshed with them to adapt to it.
IMHO but the only thing paricularly special about Seydels is their marketing department. And the price.
Ana, the Seydel 1847 is a good harp. You might have to do some gapping on it to get it to play exactly as you want it to, but that goes for any harp.
If you need to learn how to do the gapping then check out Joe Spiers great videos on YouTube. His username is Choppajoe.
I just got an 1847 Silver in A to build for a customer, and it was a good one! I've ordered a few more to check out.
It can take a bit of time to get used to every instrument's little quirks as they all have some no matter who makes them and you have to learn to adapt your technique to each individual instrument and also each indvivdual key as well.
I've ordered Seydel 1847 in A and as my brother decided that he wanna buy me a harp for birthday as well I've ordered one more in Bb.
Can wait to finally lay my breath on them:)
Unfortunatelly I will have to wait until 20th November when my friend is returning from UK to get them....:(
I'm waiting for Hohner 364 to arrive as well so that would be three new harps in my collection....and this is going to be my best birthday ever!!!!!
Happy birthday! & have lots of fun with your new toys!
My new Harps will finally arrive in next 10 days....can't wait...two Seydel 1847 in A & Bb....three Marine Band Deluxe in C,D & G..and Hohner 364 in C.....six new harps...It'll be like I've died and gone to heaven:)
I love my Seydel 1847s as customized by Ben Bouman. I've had 3 of them for over a year and they are holding up nicely. Good bending and nice vibrato. Best harps I've ever owned. Overblows and overdraws very clean.
I got one, and a 5 draw blew out early. Got replacment plates and they are very poorly gapped. Some notes stop up and others are very widely gapped. The cover plates got very rusty in spite of the fact that they are supposed to be stainless steel. I have never got any response to my 3 emails from the US rep.
I have a full set of Seydel 1847's that I started buying when they first came out a couple of years ago, and added more as they became available. Got a wee bit of better price from Rupert Oysler at the past 3 Buckeye Festivals.
I really like them... haven't had any problems, but I'm pretty easy on my harps, and don't have time to play out, so mainly play and practice at home. Always carry either my A or Bb harp depending on what I'm working on (past few months have been spent on my Bb learning Doug Jay's song "Knucklehead").
A harp buddy sold me several of his 1847's because he pretty much prefers his Special 20's... I jumped on them for what he was asking for them.
I have several custom Marine Bands that play really nice, and the 1847's come pretty close if not better. The 1847 is a very comfortable harp. The cover plates are way better than any other Lee Oskar, Special 20, or Marine band, in my opinon. I have also put full-length tapered cover plates (like the Seydel Blues Sessions covers) on some as well.
It always helps to be able to setup and tweak your own harps.
Most people really like them, unless they happen to get a clunker, but Rupert Oysler is one of the best harp reps to deal with, and will work to make it right.
I'll see how my taste changes once I get a couple of B-Radicals.
I love my custom Golden Melodies and Special 20's twice more than two mine custom 1847s. But If you can't adjust reeds, you have to try it, they're very good out of the box.
My new harps have finally arrived.
I didn't have much time to test them but seems I'm a MBD fan it'll took me a while to get use to Seydel harps. Seydels are much bigger than MBD and they reminding me on Blues Harp MS.
Hope today I will have more time to play and than I will know more, but for now I have a feeling that MBD have little faster response than Seydel, or maybe that's because I'm used to play on MBD and Seydels are just too big for me at this moment.
But they sure looks great.
Seydels 1847 are actually response slower, as reeds are much harder, it's ok for blues players, but if you play relatively fast (as I do) you'll notice that it's harder to play legato.
That's what I have notice. I don't know why but expected Seydels to be faster in response than MB Deluxe. I'm not saying that I don't like Seydels, I really didn't have a time to test them last nigh when they arrived, only thing is that they are diferent and that I will need little more time to get used to them.
Beside Seydel in A and Bb my other harps arrived last night as well. MB Deluxe in C,D,G and Hohner 364 in C. I had to give 364 to my professor because some of the reeds are not centered good enough so he will have to fix that.
Now, I need a case for all my harps and mics.
Everytime I've got that female urge for shoping instead of shoes or makeup I treat myself with a new harp, and now I need a case because I have harmonicas all over my room. Will have to give a money for a harmonica case to a first of my friends who will travel abroad because we can't buy that here in Serbia:)
Huh, I have almost 100 harmonicas of different models and keys, almost 50% of them are custumized by me for overblow/overdraw. MBD and 1847 are good out of the box, much better than stock GM and Sp20, but after customizeng I love Sp20 and GMs twice much than customized (!) MBD and 1847. And customized MBD i love more than customized 1847. I play relatively soft in different styles (mostly jazz) and even don't use MBD and 1847 live, only for practice and rehearsals. I'm lookingfor harmonicas which fits me better, wanna try 1847 silver+ and Manji and harps from other customizers...
100 harmonicas....wow...I'm not even close:)
I'm playing only 2 years....on the 9th December I will celebrate my second harp birthday:)
Problems with ordering from abroad is that our costums usually robs us, so we end up paying more for a costumes fees that we are paying for the thing we ordered.
I had an idea to make my own case from some tool case but I couldn't find that rubber foam any where in Serbia, only some low quality sponge.
But, finally EU is canceling damn visas from 19. December and we will finally be able to travel freely so maybe I'll be able to find some good case next time when go somewhere.
Ana, im wondering now that you have had your new harps, how are they holding up.
I have only been making noise for about 9 months and right now im recovering from total reconstructive knee surgery. its a great bummer. My wife bought me an 1847 for my our 29th anniversary and I love it.
Everyone here has such great advice.
abner ( BluEyes, getting bluer by the minute )
I forgot to say, your dad, brother and your friend are great guys for buying you the harps.
I myself never wanted anything as gifts until I got into the harp. Now as long as anyone one buys me anything with a harp I love it. if its a cd, book, you name it I love it.
In fact I just bought my 5 year old nephew a starter harp with instructions.
abner ( BluEyes, falling)
You are entirly right. My parents never buy me harps or other music gear. They usually present me money for my birthday. Last year my friends bought me Golden Melody gold, I was happy, as never going to buy me one (it's more expensive and for myself I prefer to buy regular).
My brother got me an ancient second-hand Blues Harp, rusted shut. Bless his heart.
Sooo Ana,,whats the verdict on the sydel??
new to this site and not sure how to start a new post so jumpping on this 1 hoping someone can help.
Not a player here but just found a few old harps in dads junk draw. ! seems to be very unusual and i spent hours searching the net but cannot find another like it. It is a hohner marine band but appers to be 4 harps in 1. Looks like 2 marine bands side by side with another 2 back to back for a total of 4 harps with 40 holes. On the original box it says hohner marine band 4 keys in 1. A, D, C & G. This measures 7 1/2" X 2 1/2" and weighs 3/4 of a pound.
Would love to know the model and age. Is it rare? Unusual?
Thanks and enjoy :)