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Use a C harp to play in E

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joe p
Jan 07, 2012 12:06 AM GMT

I love the challenge of this position..Unpredictible, and full of bad notes to navigate around...Anybody else use this...?? joe

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Jan 07, 2012 2:12 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

Well Joe, the position has the notes in a minor key, but it can be played in a major key, but you absolutely have to have spot on intonation and articulation in all of your bends to make it happen and players who play too hard generally have bends that are often horribly out of tune and here's another example of where breath control is important for everything you do in your playing and you need to get this stuff down ASAP.

Jan 07, 2012 5:01 PM GMT
joe p Replied:

yo bob,,i hear ya,,what do they call the position,,,4th maybe...By the way, i don't over bend that much,,especially when i play this pos..'''..I am a big Rice Miller fan and I try to get the max tone out of the min wind all the time..Sometimes i prefer a cheap leaky harp over a top notch one....I am gunna guess that the brass went down hill about ten years ago;the last time I bought decent harps...I am just going to have to live with the new,, more delicate stuff ,, or skip around the sour notes..I only wish I kept more of my old ones...I always gave them away.. It sounds like you are a real technical player..I am a groove and tone player...Whats more durable the manji or seydel stainless?

Jan 08, 2012 4:58 PM GMT
Winslow Replied:

Nowadays called fifth position, it's been in use since at least 1929. I first heard Charlie McCoy use it on a 1969 Gordon Lightfoot record.

Basically you can use all your second-position licks (G on a C harp) to play in E minor, as long as you're careful about avoiding Draw 5 and 9.

Jan 09, 2012 2:46 PM GMT
Barbeque Bob M Replied:

Joe, I'm very much into groove and tone along with playing more refined for versatility. You seem to have the mistaken notion that you have to play veryhard to sound good and that is a flat out lie and most guys who play too hard have very thin tone, poor projection, never play resonantly, blow out harps fast, and also feedback quicker when playing amplified. Breath control is very important for not only better tone and tone control, but for tonal color variety for both acoustic as well as amplified and a 5 minute lesson from Big Walter Horton I had from him using one of my harps, he played quite soft and from then I took that very valuablelesson to other stuff by other players and found much of what was being played was not played very hard at all.

As far as what lasts, since you play far too hard, nothing isgoing to last with you at all and that's a truth you need face up to and start working on breath control. The Seydel 1847 with stainless steel reeds can withstand more abuse from really hard players more than some others, and they are warrantied for 2 years, but if you've blown one out in less than thaat, you are clearly guilty of playing far too hard and no harp is going to withstand that and you're just in flat out denial.

I used to be guilty of doing the same thing you've been doing until that lesson from Big Walter, and I haven't blown out a harp in about at least 7-8 years.

Jan 09, 2012 3:04 PM GMT
John P Replied:

This is 5th position which puts you in E minor. If you are playing in E minor and not doing any bending, then just avoid draw 5 and draw 9 and it will actually be hard to hit a bad note.

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