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HarpMan FreemanSep 03, 2009 8:49 PM GMT
Could some of those who tune their own harmonica's
tell us what you think about this online tuner?
Is it good enough for someone new to tuning a harmonica?
Any precautions we should be aware of?
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Most of those are set up for tuning in equal temperament and really can't be programmed to do anything else. However, Peterson Tunershas a non-freebie software package called Strobosoft which not only has equal and many different historical temperaments on it, but it can also be programmed for any tuning you want.
Even with the use of any tuner, the final judge is always gonna be your ears and you don't want to rely on a tuner 100% of the time. When you do tune, you need to play the note with the lightest breath force you can physically manage or it really won't come out correctly at all.
I have used the Seventhstring online tuner. It's pretty good. In my opinion it's good enough to tune harps to a reasonable standard. I prefer to use my Korg CA-20 but the online tuner is a handy tool.
The Peterson tuners that Bob mentions are the cream of the crop. If i could afford it I'd probably have one. But in the meantime the Seventhstring online tuner or the Korg CA-20 fit my needs.
I have a Peterson StroboStomp and its tuning can be easilymodified. According to the manual "by usingthe SELECT button to tap in the cent value. (NOTE: Like all modern Peterson tuners, increments are in 0.1 cent)." My question is: can someone tell me what are the 12 offsets needed for Just Intonation, 7-limit-JI or 19-limit-JI? (I assume that 12TET is covered by standard tuning on any chromatic tuner)
One of the preset tunings in that tuner is Just Intonation and it's in 7LJI so all you should need to do is basically dial it into that setting and then it takes care of itself. You will need your ears as a final judge. I've been doing JI for the last 20 years and and for the very last 15, I don't even use a tuner, just my ears like the way the old guys used to do it at Hohner prior the 90's.
That was done by yours truly! BTW, the Peterson website has a forum there that is extremely informative and well worth checking out and you can ask just about any question you want about their tuners. Their old tuners from 20-30 years ago where they were accurate to within 1/3 of a cent is far more accurate than any brand new quartz crystal tuner that you see made for guitars that are being made right now, and those quartz crystal tuners are accurate to within 1 cent (semitone). Just remember, you still need to use your ears as a final guide so don't totally rely on a tuner alone, and when you play, remember, use the LIGHTEST breath force that you can physically manage.
While looking at the manual online for the StroboStomp, Just Major that they use as a preset is actually 7LJI, and all you need to do is to set it to that and then adjust key and pitch standard and then tune like it was ET because it will be automatically adjusted for you.
All tuners by default are set to ET tuning.
There was an online tuner some years back, which I can't remember the name of that you could select to tune in many different presets, including Just Major, which by default was 7LJI, and of all the JI's, that is the purest in sound of all of them in terms of perfectly clear, no beating chord sounds.
The Peterson Strobosoft can be set to any type of tuning around you want.
Bob, I'd love to be able to find this, but my StroboStomp doesn't seem to have this setting. I checked the manual for the new StroboStomp 2 and it doesn't list "Just Major" either. Although they have added DADGAD, pedal steel, Dobro and violin tunings... :(
I did track down your "Tunings for Diatonic Harmonicas", however. (Thank-you for that and thanks, Joe, for pointing me in the rightdirection!)I just haven't got up the gumpshun to plug them all into the Peterson.
Is the online tuner you're thinking about possibly TuneLab? They have a lot of non-equal temperament tunings available, but I didn't see any "Just" intonations. (Theoretical Jean-Jacques Rousseau, anybody?)
DP, that Tune Lab is definitely not the one I was thinking about. Pianos, organs, and harpsichords haven't used JI since the 1700's, which was the time when they first began using ET tuning.
I just took a look at the manual on the Peterson website and the one you have is aimed at guitar playing useage primarily. Outside of the 12 wheel strobe tuner, the V-SAM,andthe StroboSoft computer software package, what they recommend for tuning harmonicas, and I agree with them on this, would've been the StroboFlip, which has many more useful oprtions for a variety of instruments and if you go their website http://www.petersontuners.com, and look at the manual for the Strobo Flip, that one definitely has both Just Major (7LJI) as well as Just Minor as one of its presets.
The nice thing about the StroboSoft package for a computer is that you can download tons of different tuning schemes along with programming it in many different ways.
I just wish I could remember who put that tuning software out because I had purchased it as a download and a computer I had it on crashed, deep 6th itself and that thing got lost because, like a dummy, I forgot to back that up!! (I surely deserve a big, fat kick in the rear end for that one!!!!)